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Two days of play ahead 
6th-Jan-2004 06:58 pm
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Going to the Buffyverse Conference tomorrow and the Turner Exhibition at the Tate (warning the link requires flash)on Thursday.

Congratulations irishnoodles on your first solo flight. I must teach you how to change the icon you use for your entries, or comments sometime soon.
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13th-Jan-2004 12:10 pm (UTC)
Hi!

Hope you don't mind, but I just added you to my Friends list because I noticed you were on some of my best lj friends' Friends lists and I felt the need to investigate...

...and I wanted to say, you went to the Buffyverse Conference that addressed the question of Greeks and Romans in the Buffyverse (were there any?) and then -- what? Was it good? Was it bad? Hilarious, or just mildly interesting?
13th-Jan-2004 12:28 pm (UTC)
Hi there. Don't mind in the least. The more the merrier.

Ah the Greeks and Romans. (Don't think there are any, as such, in the Buffyverse. LOL)

How was it? - Interesting. That's if you're into the whole 'Buffy draws on a whole range of classical myths' academic analysis of the show. As a Spike fan (you guessed! Does it show?)I came in to his story with 'Intervention'. The redemption arc was evident to someone who had never watched the show before; - vampire, soulless, evil, acting out of love?

There were a few laughs, quite a few actually, but the whole conference was quite challenging and thought provoking. The credentials of some of the contributers were amazing; a classics prof. from Oxford Uni.; one from Maynooth. I especially liked the paper on 'prophecy' given by a prof. from Canada. It was a very international group; people coming from all corners of the globe; - New Zealand, Canada, Ireland.
13th-Jan-2004 01:09 pm (UTC)
ow was it? - Interesting. That's if you're into the whole 'Buffy draws on a whole range of classical myths' academic analysis of the show.

Hmmm - I don't know that it does, any more than any other American TV series of the moment. Actually, I don't believe that redemption is an especially common theme in Greek drama. But tragic heroes à la Spike, who try to do good but despite their best intentions end up achieving the opposite, there are aplenty. And isn't Joss fond of saying that it's all just a metaphor for growing up?
Anyway, it certainly does sound like it may have been an interesting series of talks.

Funny that you came into Spike's story with 'Intervention' (which remains one of my favourite BtVS-episodes, by the way) - I came into it just a little earlier, halfway through 'Crush' while channel-hopping one day in May 2002. It was Spike's rant about the women in his (un)life that got me hooked on the show; and from that moment on, it's been all about Spike as far as I'm concerned (though I am quite fond of Giles as well). ;-)
13th-Jan-2004 03:51 pm (UTC)
I don't know that it does, any more than any other American TV series of the moment.
You're right. Actually the title of the conference was a bit misleading. It looked at other series too, notably Hercules and Xena (don't watch either of those)and one paper looked at how TV series such as those have grown out of the film versions of the myths.

The conference didn't limit itself to the classical myths either. There was an interesting paper on Xander as the Christ figure at the end of Season 6 (have you read my essay on Spike as Christ figure in Season 7?)

So, yes, your points are valid from what I told you about the conference.
13th-Jan-2004 04:46 pm (UTC)
have you read my essay on Spike as Christ figure in Season 7?

Not yet -- it's in your Babblings, is it?
13th-Jan-2004 04:52 pm (UTC)
it's in your Babblings

Yes. It was the first thing I ever wrote. And then buffyx challenged her friends to write a little ficlet, so I did a 'funny' (Why Europe?)I followed that with an even shorter ficlet based on the Sacrifice essay (Every Night He Saves Her)Working on a longer piece now (Family)It's causing me no end of problems because I haven't actually seen any AtS yet. But then I can never resist a challenge.
13th-Jan-2004 05:01 pm (UTC)
It's causing me no end of problems because I haven't actually seen any AtS yet

Who cares? As long as you're having fun while you're writing it, you can go totally AU. Besides, you can always tweak it a bit later. I hear AtS starts on Sky One this Tuesday...;-)
13th-Jan-2004 05:06 pm (UTC) - you can go totally AU
That's not what's causing the problems. It's set post-'Damaged' but I'm finding writing characters I haven't ever seen (Connor, Gunn, Fred,)incredibly difficult. And characters keep demanding to be written-in; Lilah was first, then Ethan. Now Lorne is trying to get in too. LOL
13th-Jan-2004 03:57 pm (UTC)
If you're really interested in this topic, then Slayage is the place to go.
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