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I'm still tired from the emotional weekend. But I managed to put the… 
3rd-Nov-2004 08:01 pm
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I'm still tired from the emotional weekend. But I managed to put the finishing touches to Chapter 18 of Family and it's up at FanficNet

Special thanks to bogwitch for getting me back on track and telling me where to break it before the Epilogue; paratti for her wise words about writing Illyria; and onetwomany for offering to beta this final chapter for me.
And now I must go and clear my PC of all the jpg files I acquired this weekend.
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3rd-Nov-2004 02:27 pm (UTC)
Will have to go and inspect it to see if I approve.
3rd-Nov-2004 03:02 pm (UTC)
Yippee! It's fine. Still like the seance line.
3rd-Nov-2004 03:06 pm (UTC)
And the follow up to the line you hated - Wes' We wait?

Thanks a million. This was the hardest chapter of the lot.
3rd-Nov-2004 03:08 pm (UTC)
Hee. Yeah, I missed that.
5th-Nov-2004 11:33 am (UTC)
Oh, crumbs!

Oh, that was so good! Beautifully written, lovely characterisations; really drew me in. Wow.

When will the epilogue be ready?

And the sequel? :)

5th-Nov-2004 05:04 pm (UTC)
*blush* Thank you.

The Epilogue is driving me to drink. I've got all the scenes plotted but can't get the dialogue right. I want to use dialogue from the series (Origins) but Boggy is right again (sod her) when she says I use too much from the episode.

As for the Sequel - it's pestering me to start it. There's even a working title Soul Searching. When Jane said that thing about writing for a TV series was writing fanfic, I thought - with characters like Ethan and Illyria, I could take a step closer to writing an original character. The bare bones of Illyria are there but there wasn't enough time to develop it on screen. Now if paratti would just get her RL sorted out, I might be in with a chance of doing it. If you've read her essay on Illyria - that's the starting point. Illyria = Elizabeth I; Wesley = illyria's Cecil; Spike = Illyria's Leicester. And of course, Fred's soul has not been consumed in the resurrection of Illyria this time, has it?

5th-Nov-2004 11:08 pm (UTC)
The Epilogue is driving me to drink.

You need an excuse? I understand the desire to use dialogue from the actual episodes, I love reusing it, especially if you can twist it a bit. I probably wouldn't recognise much from AtS though - I haven't actually seen much of it. Jules taped the Spikecentric episodes for me, and to be honest, they were all I watched. Which is shameful, and I will put the DVDs on my Christmas wish-list, because I very much want to watch them.

I started reading Lesley's Illyria essay, and I just didn't have time to read it properly as it deserves, but I will go back now you've reminded me. The Elizabeth analogy was very interesting indeed. I'm not convinced about the Spike=Leicester analogy, though. Wasn't Leicester Elizabeth's 'true love'? Didn't she go out of her way to advance him, to give him a rank suitable for a potential consort and so on? Illyria surely isn't capable of loving Spike? Or is it the Spike as Illyria's 'pet' aspect that ties him with leicester? I have to admit, though, Elizabethan history is not my strongpoint (very poor, considering I live in her mum's home village!) - I've probably got a very romanticised view.

So what - you are thinking of extending the parallel? Weaving the Elizabeth story/mythology with the Illyria story? Oh, very dangerous is the writing of the final chapter! before you know it, your two chapters in to the sequel!

Good luck with the epilogue!
5th-Nov-2004 11:14 pm (UTC)
paratti's thesis is that Wesley is the intellectual statesman guide, while Spike is the Leicester figure, showing Illyria how to behave as a physical woman (not necessarily romantic love). The challenge would be to develop the theme of soul searching - Wesley for Fred's, Illyria to find her place in the limited physical female human form, and Spike to find his place in the world post Buffy (sorry, but I want the bitch to die for him, metaphorically if not physically). Where Angel fits in all this gawd alone knows.
5th-Nov-2004 11:37 pm (UTC)
Fascinating. You must do this. Really.

Happy for Buffy to be out of the picture. The WIP has got all Spuffy out of my system. I want Spike free.

Well, naturally I'd be happy to pay for him, too... ;)
5th-Nov-2004 11:46 pm (UTC)
Well, naturally I'd be happy to pay for him, too

*splutter*

He's very cheap to keep. No change of wardrobe, limited diet. I'd be willing to pay for him, too.

Have to say, meeting James at the weekend, I waited for the he's just a bloke to kick in Spike but it never did. He was looking so healthy and relaxed and the solo accoustic performance came as a pleasant surprise. He just oozed energy and warmth and the chemistry between him and David on stage was phenomenal.
5th-Nov-2004 11:52 pm (UTC)
Oh, James is a sweetie, and a professional flirt, and not unpretty, and he has such a wonderful zest for it all. But he honestly doesn't do it for me. Second time round he really was just a bloke - a very nice example of a bloke but that was about it. Sad really. I need a RL lust object to get excited about!

So, c'mon - what did you say? What did he say? Were you star-struck?

6th-Nov-2004 12:18 am (UTC)
I was very nervous. Having got a full ticket for £50 on the Friday night, I wasn't prepared for the photo shoot or anything. But I wasn't star struck. I told James that I was there under false pretenses which worried him for a split second, until I explained the circumstances. Then he seemed genuinely surprised at the generosity of the woman who couldn't be there. By that time, I was standing between the two boys and spotted just how uptight David was, so I tried to put him at ease. The photo was done and I moved to walk away. That's when James held on to my shoulder and turned me back to face him. He said the colour of my blouse looked stunning on me. *almost fainted* Needless to say, it will never ever be washed now. Don't want it to fade.

Then when I went back for the autograph, I'd bought a GOTR pic for the woman (Irene)who'd given me the ticket. I wanted him to sign it for her so I reminded James of how I'd come to be there and then said suppose I have to go through your PA for . . .and looked at her. She shook her head and said don't ask. Up until that point, I was getting the full look, you know, the direct gaze right into you. As soon as his PA spoke, he dropped his eyes, signed my photo and muttered I gotta do as I'm told - poor guy.

David was easier with the autograph. I just complimented him on how good he looked in the photo and said he took a good pic. I was rewarded bny a huge grin this time and a thank you, as he signed it. The man is really very very shy.
He presented me with an Angel Vamp prothesis (the bumpy forehead mask, signed) for Irene on the Saturday night when he was given out presents for people who'd made what he called special journeys to be there. (Someone took a photo. I may post it later next week) This event replaced the ghost story he was supposed to read. Nice man. Hilariously funny like a big kid on stage.

So, there's my tales from the star-struck.
6th-Nov-2004 12:34 am (UTC)
Oh, how wonderful!! Hee! James is so good! And I know what you mean about the full-on look. It reduced me to jelly the first time (and the bloody headtilt finished me completely). Second time I was ready for it, and it just made me realise how good he is at this, and how wonderful it is that he makes the effort, and that he genuinely seems to care.

Aww... I'm so glad you had fun! You will share your photo when you get it, won't you?
6th-Nov-2004 01:56 am (UTC)
Only just twigged - you missed my original posting. It's a couple of LJ entries back. Photo was the first thing to go up.
6th-Nov-2004 01:23 pm (UTC)
HOW DID I MISS THOSE?!!! God, I hate it when RL gets in the way. You look fab! James is quite right, that blue does wonderful things for your eyes. And I will rewatch TGIQ! Oh, it sounds like you had such fun! I'm very jealous.

The pics are great; the guys look to be havng fun too. Do you know if anyone has posted a transcript of their session? I've heard so much about it, I'd love to read it. Oh, and in your pics - is there one of Lesley any where? Love to put a face to the name.

It all looks wonderful. I'm so glad you got to go! We must meet up sometime so you can give me all the details (well, I have to get my vicarious kicks where I can!)
6th-Nov-2004 01:30 pm (UTC)
I had a great time.

In answer to your questions - Lesley is on the left of the pic showing the Writers' panel.

No transcript of the commentary, but the flavour can be found on Late Starters con reports on this thread on Cold Dead Seed
You'll have to scroll through the pages to find her reports - she took notes!

As for meeting up - sure, love to. And I have an even better idea - how about co-writing my sequel with me? Lesley has turned me down because of RL issues, but she's agreed to stay on as the Illyria expert. C'mon, you know you want a shot at moving Spike on from Buffy for good.
11th-Nov-2004 08:32 am (UTC)
You don't need a co-writer!

I would love to, but to be honest, real life is limiting my writing time right now. Any little time I get is being taken up by the WIP so I don't think I would be able to do anything else justice (not convinced I'm doing the WIP justice right now, either). If only a living could be earned from writing fanfic.

Mind you, if you're still looking for a partner when the WIP is done...
12th-Nov-2004 04:21 pm (UTC)
The Sequel will not be started until I have a partner.

I can wait.

I had an idea for a 12 Days of Christmas bit of fluff, but just know that it could never live up to Estepheia's Advent story of last year. Maybe I'll go pitch it to her and see if she wants to do it.
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